In a Fox News interview, officials from the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) revealed that many of the United States government's most critical IT systems are severely outdated and costly to maintain. Aram Moghaddassi, a software engineer at DOGE, stated, “Really critical systems are old and cost a lot of money to maintain.”

He further elaborated that, by some estimates, the federal government spends around $100 billion annually on information technology. Much of that budget supports systems that are more than 50 years old, including those operated by the Social Security Administration and the Internal Revenue Service (IRS). Moghaddassi also noted that efforts to modernize these legacy systems are frequently delayed, compounding inefficiencies and costs.

Other DOGE officials also shared insights during the group interview. Steve Davis pointed to excessive credit card issuance in the federal workforce, stating that there were previously around 4.6 million government credit cards for only 2.4 million employees. That figure has since been reduced to 4.3 million. Elon Musk, who leads DOGE, commented, “There should not be more credit cards than there are people.”

Joe Gebbia, another DOGE team member and co-founder of Airbnb, offered a forward-looking vision. “We really believe that the government can have an Apple Store-like experience—beautifully designed, great user experience, modern systems,” he said, emphasizing the need for intuitive, consumer-grade public service interfaces.

The interview highlighted DOGE’s growing push for digital reform, accountability, and modernization across all levels of government. As aging systems continue to drain public funds, DOGE leaders are calling for bold changes that match 21st-century standards and expectations.